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Saturday 29 November 2008

Overconsumption and consumerism are out of control

kateoplis:

dalasverdugo:

marco:

Me:

Cause of death: an incredibly dysfunctional society where overconsumption and consumerism are out of control while education and adulthood are neglected.

dalasverdugo:

Marco, I like you, but every other post you make is about something you just bought or you are considering buying. So this is hard to take, coming from you.

You have a point, but I don’t feel it’s in the same league:

  1. I only buy things I can afford. The only debt I’ve ever taken on was financing for a car, which I paid off after 18 months.
  2. I never buy anything at retail if I can reasonably get it online.
  3. I know better than to assume that anything at retail is ever a “good deal”.
  4. I’ve never killed anyone trying to get into a Wal-Mart at 5 AM.

Fair enough. I didn’t mean to imply that you were irresponsible or homicidal. I think it’s good that you avoid debt. Here’s to not trampling people!

I must chime in. Dalasverdugo’s point is right on the money Marco, because u have made ‘over-consumption’ the basis for your argument, not shopping online vs shopping in store, or the IQ of a particular consumer. Anyone can and most do over-consume, whether they can afford it or not is another issue. I’m willing to bet that most compulsive sprees are being conducted by the debt-free upper classes. Obsessive tendencies towards materialism is at the root of this mostly western pandemic. And we all should take an honest inventory of our actions, especially in the light of Obama’s upcoming reign, and the sacrifices he will be demanding of us.

Eh, I think Marco has not neglected his (a) education and (b) adulthood. Judging from his posts and career success to date, I’d assess him to be way above the curve, juxtaposed against fellow twentysomethings. In my own twentysomething days, I may have nabbed the education, but maturity over overconsumption would wait until thirtysomething years.

But I do understand the replies by dalasverdugo and kateoplis. A while back, I challenged a popular and respected science fiction author on his assertion that the 1980s were a golden age of programming, where the machines were sold with development tinkering built-in (so students could do all those BASIC exercises), as opposed to the Windows machines of today that come with no compiler or no Basic interpreter as back in those thrilling, nostailgic times of yesteryear he waned for as well as attributing young American reluctance to enter computer science and computer engineering career paths.

You see, his view was anchored in a golden computing age mythos, that unlike the present age, all who wished to experiment in programming computers were able to. But those purchases were the province of the affluent (at least until the late 1980s), and economically disadvantaged Americans were unable to afford such financial outlays. Computers cost more than your automobile. Very few were blessed to own a machine they could play with. I can remember wishing for a computer, but knowing full well it was something that would never happen until I completed college and secured a full time professional job. What little money my hands came upon was earmarked for food (and I lived on $10 a week in food money), gasoline to get to the second job, and beer (though $2 could last you all night).

Meanwhile, I observed roommates and friends, fortunate enough to have rich parents, blow stacks of money on speakers, records, trips, toys, etc.….  I never realized how poor I was until I lent a dormitory friend (who was in need of a trip to the laundry room) a pair of socks and a day later he unmercifully ridiculed me — for they were a tad worn and hole laden. I looked in my drawer and noticed that most of my socks were just like that.

I never brooded over it, I just reconciled that one day I would have a decent job and would be able to afford those things.

Now, to the comment stream about consumerism and overconsumption — there is a lot of admonition, chastising those who “refuse to live within their means”. Some of it comes from the affluent who call out those who borrow for what they easily purchase on a whim, even if it as frequent as a UPS delivery nearly every day. Some of it is from those sated in self-deprivation, criticizing those weaker wills for their flawed spendthrift ways. And while no way do I completely absolve those for their imprudent financial acts, the matter is a bit more nuanced.

  • Unprecedented bombardment of psychological riffs to buy, charge and consume. Advertising and marketing professionals have so honed their craft, making it a cognitive assault that seeps into skulls, igniting desire for things not necessary for survival. Even the most hardened must concede that such ploys are effective, otherwise why would so many millions be spent on broadcasting polished message appeals?
  • Rising inequality. Since the late 1970s, incomes at the top grew exponentially, but the majority of working Americans, wages stagnated. People really are driven to “keep up with the Joneses” and it sets up an arms race where “the top 1 percent are armed to the teeth and everybody else is scavenging for ammunition”. I struggle to explain and paraphrase, but economist Robert Frank does an excellent job of detailing.

Finally, rewinding all the way to the start of this thread, the Wal-mart trampling tragedy — here, all I can add is I do not understand the psyche of Wal-mart shopper. No, I take not a “boycott Wal-mart” stance, but it astounds me how gaga shoppers get over saving a little money. That they have no moral qualms over Wal-Mart management ethics:

  • Exploited offshore labor. Yeah, the response is “well everybody does it”, but Wal-mart created the model and when it exercises its market power, all else in the chain must fall in line too.
  • Corporate socialism benefactors. The same rural denizens decrying “socialism” are oblivious to the tide of government largess flowing to chain store retailers. Subsidized land, tax immunity, tax deductions, discounted bonds, and outright monetary gifts fill their chests, sounding a death knell for local based competitors, who would be hard pressed to compete even without all the goodies granted to Wal-Mart (or Cabela’s).
  • Cheap, disposable, inferior goods. I’d say 95% of the stuff bought at Wal-mart is destined for the landfill in less than five years. But it’s emblematic of the throw away society we live in now.
 

Notes

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  2. datny reblogged this from ronenreblogs and added:
    these are the solutions that the average american can adopt to fix their own current economic crisis (the only thing we...
  3. ronenreblogs reblogged this from marco and added:
    emphasis mine ;)
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    preduke: 24freedinners
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  10. brianvan reblogged this from marco and added:
    (Responding to countercriticism against Marco relating to his sharp criticism of consumer culture by way of Wal Mart...
  11. spainiality reblogged this from mehere and added:
    Oh My God… People...inconsiderate!!!!!! This poor man is going
  12. jbishop reblogged this from thadeej and added:
    allisonweiss: thadeej)
  13. bringmethathorizon reblogged this from buyhercandy
  14. mimin reblogged this from pdl2h and added:
    worker died after being trampled when hundreds...shoppers smashed through the doors
  15. azspot reblogged this from kateoplis and added:
    Eh, I think Marco has not neglected his (a) education and (b) adulthood. Judging from his posts and career success to...
  16. kateoplis reblogged this from dalasverdugo and added:
    I must chime in. Dalasverdugo’s point is right on the money Marco, because u have made ‘over-consumption’ the basis for...
  17. jiffy reblogged this from semisetadrift
  18. dylicious reblogged this from allisonweiss
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  20. dalasverdugo reblogged this from marco and added:
    Fair enough. I didn’t mean to imply that you were irresponsible or homicidal. I think it’s good that you avoid debt....
  21. marco reblogged this from dalasverdugo and added:
    You have a point,...I don’t feel it’s in the same league: I only buy things I can afford....
  22. alexbeaudet reblogged this from marco and added:
    This is awful. It’s one...those terrible times when you know
  23. peroty reblogged this from marco and added:
    Marco has said it all. Sickening. Utterly sickening.
  24. semisetadrift reblogged this from buyhercandy
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  27. downwithkickball reblogged this from thebronzemedal
  28. thatkindoftickles reblogged this from marco
  29. animinimalism reblogged this from lynrei and added:
    truly ridiculous and disturbing. i was hoping this holiday season would be more peaceful.
  30. missconceptions reblogged this from eldoggrag
  31. dalasverdugo reblogged this from marco and added:
    Marco, I like you, but every other post you make is...something you just bought or...
  32. lisajennifer reblogged this from mdfsmash
  33. pdl2h reblogged this from sorane
  34. mehere reblogged this from marco and added:
    “Cause of death: an incredibly dysfunctional society where overconsumption and consumerism are out of control while...
  35. omnialx reblogged this from krza and added:
    A Wal-Mart worker died after being trampled when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island store...
  36. wakocytosis reblogged this from noahkai
  37. enjoythemonologue reblogged this from marco
  38. sraz reblogged this from pleaseshowmehowtolive and added:
    It’s all fun and games ‘till somebody gets trampeled by a stampede.
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  43. geekfriendly reblogged this from marco and added:
    I absolutely agree with Marco. Everyone involved should be jailed, as some of the most despicable examples of humanity...
  44. lisaahh reblogged this from iammattjordan and added:
    I made it a poem. Just kidding tumblr is being stupid… but so are people.
  45. keepyourselfwarm reblogged this from allisonweiss
  46. lynrei reblogged this from eldoggrag and added:
    HORRIBLE. first news i read when i woke up this morning, not a good way to start celebrating the holidays!
  47. khalanslh reblogged this from marco and added:
    i cant stand this country
  48. jostle reblogged this from marco and added:
    And this is why i say that people are stupid. I so agree.
  49. nikoanesti reblogged this from mdfsmash and added:
    Ugh, this is becoming almost a regular thing. Like people just accept the fact that others get injured, trampled, or...
  50. imstuckinabag reblogged this from mdfsmash
  51. noahkai reblogged this from michaelikesit and added:
    Wow, I can’t believe this…this is just like those people who told that kid to jump while police were trying to get him...
  52. pleaseshowmehowtolive reblogged this from soupsoup and added:
    Worst of all he worked for a temp agency! Walmart will probably wash their hands of this. I personally despise people...
  53. altidude reblogged this from marco and added:
    Well put, Marco. I was kind of hoping that one positive side-effect of the recession would be less appalling...
  54. skrillat reblogged this from marco and added:
    Seconded. Let’s put an end to the disgusting displays of greed and selfishness during ‘black friday’ madness. Also- how...
  55. drizzle reblogged this from mattedits and added:
    this is abhorrent.
  56. krza reblogged this from michaelikesit and added:
    Because we don’t have enough reasons to hate the Chineese Junk Box Corperation. I despise Wal-Mart so much. Such a sad...
  57. ak7 reblogged this from jaclynday and added:
    A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long...
  58. mdfsmash reblogged this from marco
  59. mattedits reblogged this from becktime and added:
    Online shopping…try it sometime America…
  60. laydown reblogged this from fatmanatee and added:
    another reason not to shop at Walmart. You might die.
  61. sorane reblogged this from marco
  62. biteofpythias reblogged this from marco and added:
    amen. An interesting side note is how different news outlets are discussing the 2nd incident at the same store involving...
  63. cassiesheets reblogged this from michaelikesit and added:
    A Wal-Mart worker died after being trampled when hundreds of shoppers smashed through the doors of a Long Island store...
  64. becktime reblogged this from soupsoup and added:
    Anddddddddd that is why other countries hate America.
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  70. eldoggrag reblogged this from marco and added:
    not a good way to go
  71. blissed reblogged this from schrutebucks and added:
    That is so fucking ridiculous. This Black Friday shit is stupid and unnecessary. It’s called ‘online shopping’. Dumb...
  72. kjohnson reblogged this from soupsoup and added:
    marco : jackieheartsb :
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  76. novelme reblogged this from iammattjordan and added:
    tumbl-me: inothernews: wooliebear:...A worker died after being trampled and a woman...
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  85. fatmanatee reblogged this from ardenashley and added:
    I have more to say on Walmart in general, but that will be saved for later on. Obviously, this is a terrible story, and...
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  91. schrutebucks reblogged this from srsly and added:
    Wow… good to know people aren’t willing to stop to help someone when there’s a great sale going on. I wish it was...
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  95. allisonweiss reblogged this from marco and added:
    - Marco Worker dies...Long Island Wal-Mart after being
  96. falconieri reblogged this from marco and added:
    Completely agree. Reblogged and “Liked”
  97. marco reblogged this from jaclynday and added:
    Cause of death: an incredibly dysfunctional society where overconsumption and consumerism are out of control while...
  98. sparklesyndrome reblogged this from dsquared92 and added:
    this is why i’m staying home today :/
  99. theipodguru reblogged this from inothernews and added:
    that’s just ridiculous.
  100. kateinsarfeastldn reblogged this from jaclynday and added:
    Unbelievable. And us Americans like to think we live in a “civilized” country.
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  103. jaclynday reblogged this from jacobmartinez and added:
    PATHETIC. This makes me really angry—and embarrassed.
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  106. jacobmartinez reblogged this from inothernews and added:
    “They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too…I literally had to...
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  108. grilled-cheeese reblogged this from schrutebucks and added:
    srsly:inothernews:wooliebear: NY Daily News: A worker died after being trampled and a woman miscarried
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