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Saturday 29 September 2007

More Health Care Professionals Involved In Design, Structuring of Torture Than in Providing Care for Survivors

  • DOUGLAS JOHNSON: I think it’s important to understand -- and this is an example of it -- that currently in today's world there are more healthcare professionals involved in the design and structuring of torture than there are those who are involved in providing care for survivors.
  • AMY GOODMAN: Say that again.
  • DOUGLAS JOHNSON: There are more healthcare people involved in the design and the instrumentation of torture than there are involved in providing healing for the survivors.
  • AMY GOODMAN: In this country.
  • DR. STEVEN MILES: No, around the world.
  • DOUGLAS JOHNSON: In the world.
  • AMY GOODMAN: Around the world.
  • DOUGLAS JOHNSON: In the world. And it is, in many times, because healthcare people get engaged and confused by the same ticking time bomb theories that fuel 24 and other fantasy programs, which have unfortunately seem to be the basis of learning for many of our policymakers. It’s fantasy-driven, and it causes people to do stupid things.
  • AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Miles?
  • DR. STEVEN MILES: About 130 countries torture, but of the survivors, somewhere between 20% and 50% report seeing a health professional directly involved in supervising the torture. And that doesn’t count the ones who never see the physician who falsely certifies the cause of death as natural causes. So it’s actually around 40% of survivors actually see the health practitioner involved in the torture. And, you know, as Doug said, about 1% of the torture victims in Minnesota are actually getting treatment.

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